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« on: December 25, 2017, 03:30:11 PM »
Hello,

I'm new on this forum. I'm interested in purchasing a new or used wooden albert system amati sol/g clarinet. I'm open to different models as it will be my first g clarinet and I'm not too picky though, of course, I want to make the best buy possible :b

I will be in Spain for a month and a half, until mid feb 2018, and would prefer to get it by then.

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 01:18:48 PM »
I have contacted the official distributors that appear on the Amati site. Some have answered with a budget aprox 1900 euros. On internet I find similar prices, perhaps 100 euros cheaper than that.

I found one site where they were considerably less expensive but Im not sure if they are trust-worthy:
http://shop.zuhalmuzik.com/AMATI-ACL-356S-O-CLARINET_31275.html#0

Anyone know about this site?

I have considered going to Istambul as I have a flight that I could arrange to stop there. Ive seen some posts saying that its actually better to order Amatis then to buy them in a shop since they aren't produced in Turkey anways.

I'd like to know your opinion to gain some insight.

Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 07:39:39 AM »
No, I don't know anything about that site. The posted price is about equivalent to the US price for an ACL340. While checking, I also noticed that the 356 seems to be showing up on fewer sites; I wonder if they've quit making it.

Is there a reason you're looking for the six-ring model rather than the four-ring?

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 06:27:52 PM »
Contact our member papa007 (Michael), he is a distributor for hammershmidt. Click on the word hammershmidt.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 08:21:56 AM »
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Is there a reason you're looking for the six-ring model rather than the four-ring?

No,  @a_hennig.  Actually, I am not aware of the difference between two models really.

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 08:23:12 AM »

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Contact our member papa007 (Michael), he is a distributor for hammershmidt. Click on the word hammershmidt.

@Bass, why do you recommend me more a Hammer instead of an Amati?

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 11:33:18 AM »
Hammer is much better quality for the same price. I owned amati and hammer, big difference in my opinion.  Also Michael helped many of us find a clarinet, he might find you an amati.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 09:27:15 PM »
All else being equal (which it usually isn't), I prefer the four ring configuration. On most instruments, the fifth ring (LH 3rd finger) serves to flatten the forked upper Bflat a little because this note tends to be sharp, but you can get the same result on a four-ring instrument by adding the RH third finger, which is usually very convenient in arpeggios. The functionality of the sixth ring (RH 1st finger) varies a lot by maker and model, and in some cases does nothing except make it feel like the other holes.

My experience with Amati vs Hammerschmidt is a little different that some folks' here. My G is a recent Amati ACL340, and I love it. I have, however, made a lot of tweaks to it over a period of three years, and it is a much better horn today than when I bought it. (Starting out with a new mouthpiece; I couldn't use it with the supplied Amati mouthpiece.)  My B-flat is an older Hammerschmidt. The keywork is excellent, the intonation is quite good, and the sound is unimpressive. Only a Wurlitzer mouthpiece that I acquired recently has been able to make it sound good. But with this mouthpiece it is sufficient for my needs, given that the G is my primary instrument.

Note that I have not had an opportunity to try a recent Hammerschmidt, and I assume that they are much better than the one I have. Note, too, that although I love my Amati, it had a lot of minor issues as it came - all correctible, though, for a tech who knows what he is doing.

Both instruments are in the same standard 17 key, four ring configuration, which I prefer over either an Oehler or a Boehm for classical as well as for folk music.

And I would agree with Bass that Michael is an excellent dealer to work with. I bought a C from him a few years ago and have never had a more pleasant experience as a buyer. He is both knowledgeable and helpful.

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 12:14:39 PM »
Thank you Bass and a_hennig. I have written a private message to Michael and am waiting a reply. Hopefully I will find something soon :)


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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 11:33:41 AM »
All else being equal (which it usually isn't), I prefer the four ring configuration. On most instruments, the fifth ring (LH 3rd finger) serves to flatten the forked upper Bflat a little because this note tends to be sharp, but you can get the same result on a four-ring instrument by adding the RH third finger, which is usually very convenient in arpeggios. The functionality of the sixth ring (RH 1st finger) varies a lot by maker and model, and in some cases does nothing except make it feel like the other holes.

My experience with Amati vs Hammerschmidt is a little different that some folks' here. My G is a recent Amati ACL340, and I love it. I have, however, made a lot of tweaks to it over a period of three years, and it is a much better horn today than when I bought it. (Starting out with a new mouthpiece; I couldn't use it with the supplied Amati mouthpiece.)  My B-flat is an older Hammerschmidt. The keywork is excellent, the intonation is quite good, and the sound is unimpressive. Only a Wurlitzer mouthpiece that I acquired recently has been able to make it sound good. But with this mouthpiece it is sufficient for my needs, given that the G is my primary instrument.

Note that I have not had an opportunity to try a recent Hammerschmidt, and I assume that they are much better than the one I have. Note, too, that although I love my Amati, it had a lot of minor issues as it came - all correctible, though, for a tech who knows what he is doing.

Both instruments are in the same standard 17 key, four ring configuration, which I prefer over either an Oehler or a Boehm for classical as well as for folk music.

And I would agree with Bass that Michael is an excellent dealer to work with. I bought a C from him a few years ago and have never had a more pleasant experience as a buyer. He is both knowledgeable and helpful.



excellent reply Arnold.


Nadege, here is Michael's website contact page.  he gives generous discounts to GTC members, no strings attached, we all do it to help each other here.


http://www.hammerschmidt-klingson.com/?page_id=10



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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »
Thanks Bass.

I have written to Michael twice through the contact page. Perhaps its because of the holidays but I hope to hear back soon.


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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2018, 07:15:34 PM »
i just emailed him just in case his contact page is not working.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 05:21:39 AM »
Great Bass!

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 04:18:56 AM »
I found one site where they were considerably less expensive but Im not sure if they are trust-worthy:
http://shop.zuhalmuzik.com/AMATI-ACL-356S-O-CLARINET_31275.html#0

Anyone know about this site?

hi nadege ! I don't know this site, but if the acl 356 is a 6 ring model, i think this is not what they are selling.. (or at least the picture is not the good one)
or maybe i'm wrong : is there some 356 models with 4 rings ?


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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 04:24:34 AM »
well, i'm a bit confused now,
on the amati website they also say acl 356 is a 6 ring but showing a picture of a 4 ring clarinet..
http://www.amati.cz/en/woodwind-instruments/clarinets/german-system

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 04:51:14 AM »
Amati has always (annoyingly) used a single generic four-ring photo for all of their G clarinet listings. You have to read the descriptions to tell them apart. I don't know why they do this, and I don't know whether they do the same thing with other models.

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 11:48:13 AM »
have you checked this?


https://www.wwbw.com/Amati-ACL-340S-German-G-Clarinet-464450.wwbw?skuId=site8sku464450000000000


we all trust this website, they have great return policy if you decide its not what you want.
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