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« on: May 27, 2008, 04:49:16 PM »
HERE ANOTHER ONE THIS TIME PROPER TRADITIONAL LIVE.  I LIKE TO LISTEN TO ALL AND NOT BIASED !!!

HAPPY LISTENING, ALSO GUYD FOR THE DOWNLOADS FIRST LOAD TRACKS 12-19, THEN 110-118

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 05:58:41 PM »
Thanks Fadiesi. 
I like the one where the singer reminds the people that it's a "paraggelia" (special paid for request meaning they shouldn't join the dance, that it is only for the party that requested it.  He says, "paraggelia."  Reminds me of some of the panigyria I've been to over the years.

Here's a couple of panigyria with a bit more of a traditional sound from last year:

Gardiki Panigyri
http://www.gtc-music1.com/pro_uploads/Kalakos/Panigyria/GardikiPanigyri.TaMayia.wmv

Old Kaggeli song "Sta Ritsa"
http://www.gtc-music1.com/pro_uploads/Kalakos/Panigyria/PanigyriStaRitsa.wmv

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 07:33:15 PM »
Bravo fadiesi, great job uploading these... :TU:
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 01:24:10 AM »
I like the one where the singer reminds the people that it's a "paraggelia" (special paid for request meaning they shouldn't join the dance, that it is only for the party that requested it.  He says, "paraggelia."  Reminds me of some of the panigyria I've been to over the years

This reminds me that Jewish musicians in eastern Europe used to do the same. Apparently they would do the exact opposite of today and pay a deposit, or some other form of collateral to the Bride's family in order to guarantee that they got the gig! Then they would play for dances with a small chalk board next to them with the prices for each dance, and guests would come up and pay for each tune and for how long. There's something really honest about this... I like it! And boy, you have to be good to make people pay for each dance....

and thanks for the upload George!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 05:05:35 AM »
Yes KAL + MERL this "paragellia" system give value both in every musicians playing and every dancer dancing. This system is the cause of making big song/ or music pieces in the past. Today -I think- that in GR. all are becoming fastly and many people aplos shake their ... body in everything new-psefto-style (tsiftetele etc) the plarintzis plays ... As rarely are "meraklides" musicians who play special for a "merakli" dancer and the opposite. Tell if it is common "pop" (new age) element to your countries too or not .

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 01:28:17 PM »
Paidia na min ksexnomaste,milame gia tin elit tou dimotikou tragoudiou,,,ti na poume oti einai kaloi??? Oxi mono
Na eisai kala dwse prama.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 03:03:44 PM »
Some thoughts on the "parangelia" system.
The "parangelia" system is where you pay for your requests.
Guys, I'm a dancer, and Tsamikos is my favorite.  I learned how to request songs by watching my elders.  They were meraklides (sports and real generous and the right kinds of guys).  The Greeks here will know what a meraklis is.  So I always would pay when I asked for a dance song, always.
 When I was young and had no money at all (not rich now either), if I was at a taverna whereever it was, and I didn't have much money left, I just would not dance.
Many times I was in this "condition" at the Minerva (a great place in San Franciscio in the old days).  They had an accordian, guitar, bouzouki, and a great klaritzis.  I was friends with all of them and sometimes played there.  Well, Stathi the klaritzis sometimes didn't do a lot of playing if they were just playing lots of bouzouki stuff.  If I was there, he might ask me to dance, so that he could satisfy his desire to play and feel good too!  There weren't a lot of meraklides dancers sometimes, so he was always glad to see me.
I would say, no, no, but he would insist, and it was usually "Nasan Ta Neiata" "Ilios" or "Arahova" I would then ask him to play.  And then at the end of the tune I would ALWAYS throw them whatever I had left, $3, $5, $10, whatever it was. (in those days one dollar was a good tip.)  That's what you're supposed to do.  He would always come to me at a break and bawl me out, but that's how a meraklis does it.  By the way, my best Buffet DO that I play almost 100% of the time was given to me by Stathi in 1981.
These days, many of the dancers are very definitely NOT meraklides.  They don't even know about tipping the band, and some of the younger people are almost rude.  I give it right back to them.  Better not to play places if they don't appreciate the music and the traditions.
I might say that at this Easter's picnic we made some nice tips.  One guy gave me $100 for playing (on the bouzouki) "Vergoules".
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 03:25:24 PM »
Kalako,

It's so nice making tips when you play.  Of course, it's nice to make money but the real reason is that you walk away feeling like you did a great job.  After all, they wouldn't tip you if you didn't sound good. 

Northeast Ohio has always been a hotbed for making tips.  Many times, the tips far outweigh the pay.  About a month ago, we made so much in tips that we told them to give our pay to the bride and groom!  Now that's some good PR work!
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 05:27:11 PM »
Kalako,

It's so nice making tips when you play.  Of course, it's nice to make money but the real reason is that you walk away feeling like you did a great job.  After all, they wouldn't tip you if you didn't sound good. 

Northeast Ohio has always been a hotbed for making tips.  Many times, the tips far outweigh the pay.  About a month ago, we made so much in tips that we told them to give our pay to the bride and groom!  Now that's some good PR work!

I agree Yiorgo!!  It's the enjoying of the party and the tradition!!
I also have given all the tips to the bride and groom on a few occasions (where I knew they needed them), and that was when there must have been thousands; the floor was thick with bills!!!
And then I've played for a couple of weddings where the people hiring us said we want all the tip money!

"Palio tsigounides, keratades!"

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 10:14:55 AM »
How times have changed, eh Yianni?  In the old days, they would rather cut off their heads than ask for money from the floor.  Now, whenever they ask for a portion of it, I always tell them to pay us double and they can have the floor.  It never fails, the tsigounides that never throw money always take the deal!  What happens is that they fail to bring their own singles and even when they do, they are not around to give them to the people to throw.  I really love it when these guys that never throw money start throwing it like it was going out of style to entice others to do the same but it never works.  The band doesn't care because their pay is now a set amount.  It all just works out to be a disaster for them.  It also kind of ruins the night because now this beautiful wedding has become nothing but a business arrangement.  They say greed is one of the strongest human emotions and I believe it!
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 11:52:41 AM »
Right SaleaYiorgi:
It's only happened to us 2 or 3 times in all these years (since 1962 or so I've had my  band).  I think the first time was about 10 years ago.  I couldn't believe my ears!!!!  I mean I was shocked that they could shame themselves so badly and they did not even realize it.
Po, po, po, as yiayia used to say.

Your solution is a good one!!  I'll remember that if it ever happens again!!!!!  Bravo sou.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 01:16:14 PM »
It will work if you do not bring the singles for them or hand them out for change.  They have to be on their own.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 03:12:28 PM »
wow....that is shameful!  Good for you George regarding the double approach.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 03:52:41 PM »
What I like is that it penalizes the cheapskates.  They go for the deal because they are greedy and then they wind up paying double because of it!
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 05:34:36 AM »
Wow this is a cultural learning curve!

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