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« Reply #320 on: March 28, 2016, 03:10:48 PM »
I have just bought a Crystal Pomarico Jazz **. Slightly more open than a 5JB. Very nice mouthpiece that plays equally great on Bb and G clarinet. Cheap too at €88.


its is a very nice mouthpiece ... I tried one and liked it .. I just couldnt get used to the "feel" of crystal, so I ended up not using it ! ... I stuck with my 5JB and now also the 7 JB ... enjoy the Pomarico .. they are very nice mouthpieces !!!  :TU:

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« Reply #321 on: March 29, 2016, 01:31:49 AM »
Funny, I really like the feel of crystal myself  ;)
On the G clarinet I do also use a mouthpiece called 'Akora'. Cheap plastic piece, but plays very well and has a huge tip opening.

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« Reply #322 on: September 18, 2017, 05:12:58 PM »
Hello nice GTC community,

First of all, I want to thank you to exist, I'ts been a while I feel alone by playing, searching, exploring turkish-greek ckarinet and I found this website with so much to learn thanks to you all. That's is perfect to see that it exists people interested and in quite the same wish to discover this world.
Thank you also for the information you share, I felt that it has a hole over the web, and I find to many answer here !

I take the occasion to ask you something about the topic : I could't find any info to make my own opening mouthpiece. Maybe you have something to say, recommend.
I tried yesterday to open with "glass paper" an old-basic mouthpiece instead of buying a open mouthpiece, first because of the price, second to have my own confortable opening. I am not that satisfied yet of the result (I also need to muscle my jaws and get used to a new blowing).

Do you have commentaries, recommendations about that ?

Thank you very much !

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« Reply #323 on: September 18, 2017, 07:29:51 PM »
This is an area that most of us feel that we are better off staying away from. I once tried it on a mouthpiece that I couldn't use and managed only to make it worse. On the other hand, I have two mouthpieces of the same model, the first one was great, so I bought a second, which was not nearly so good. At one point, I put both of them on a piece of glass and compared them, and I was able to discern a difference in the shape of the curve. By carefully duplicating the good one, I was able to salvage the second one, which is now almost as good as the first.

On the basis of these experiences, my advice would be, if you really want to get into mouthpiece facings, start by finding a good mouthpiece (or a couple of good ones) to copy and learn from. Measure them, but also examine carefully the shape of the curve - this is difficult to get just from measurements, because a very subtle difference, that would likely not show up in measuring, does make a big difference in the response of a mouthpiece. Be reluctant to take off too much, and teach your fingers to have a good idea of the result of the motion they make moving the mouthpiece over the sandpaper (American for glass paper).  In other words, care and practice. If your only goal is to be able to fix one mouthpiece, the odds are against you getting a good result. But care, practice and careful comparison to known good mouthpieces can lead to skill.

Good luck.

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« Reply #324 on: September 18, 2017, 08:13:10 PM »
Well I must echo Arnold's post. Mouthpiece mods are for a select group of people that truly understand the science. For the rest of us, glass and sandpaper is going to be a failure every time, and you're likely to ruin something that you could resell. It's far easier and cheaper to invest in a different mouthpiece design and explore the possibilities of of tip, facing and chamber. Everything you buy that doesn't work can be resold on eBay for what you paid for it, so you won't lose significant money on experimenting. You might actually make significant money on eBay resells. So much easier than when I was trying out mouthpieces in the 1970s at retail.


So you should go with what is commonly chosen by players here. I like the Charles Bay and Clarke Fobes designs, but they can be expensive. Many of the GTC crowd use the VanDorens: B45, 5RV, etc.. They're commonly available and usually pretty cheap. If you go to a music store to try them out, play every one they have in stock -- they'll all be different.

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« Reply #325 on: September 18, 2017, 10:52:16 PM »
Hello nice GTC community,

First of all, I want to thank you to exist, I'ts been a while I feel alone by playing, searching, exploring turkish-greek ckarinet and I found this website with so much to learn thanks to you all. That's is perfect to see that it exists people interested and in quite the same wish to discover this world.
Thank you also for the information you share, I felt that it has a hole over the web, and I find to many answer here !

I take the occasion to ask you something about the topic : I could't find any info to make my own opening mouthpiece. Maybe you have something to say, recommend.
I tried yesterday to open with "glass paper" an old-basic mouthpiece instead of buying a open mouthpiece, first because of the price, second to have my own confortable opening. I am not that satisfied yet of the result (I also need to muscle my jaws and get used to a new blowing).

Do you have commentaries, recommendations about that ?

Thank you very much !

Guy, welcome to our GTC forum!
We hope you enjoy it here.
They are giving you good advice.
Read some of the past discussions. There are several good models of mouthpieces available.

Tell us more about your playing. Share a sample.
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« Reply #326 on: September 20, 2017, 05:16:56 PM »
Thank you very much for the fast, precise and many answers you gave me !

From those advice, I could find a store where try the classic 5jb and for now, I will use it.  I really would have liked to try the 7jb, but it seems so open that not many people seem to use it. but in low notes it is not that easy for me now to have a good sound, making easy glissandos, reaching right comas. From what I read before, the combination with hot and swing reeds seem successful. I will try too.
All of my friends who play turkish music have their 5jb opened by some specialists. Apparently, they open quite a lot the inside as much as the curve. But with my unexperienced eyes, I cannot make the difference when comparing the tried-handmade and the 5jb.

Anyway, thank you for your feedback, I will try to explore slowly this new area of handmaking mouthpieces !

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« Reply #327 on: September 20, 2017, 07:00:09 PM »
Yes. Exploring slowly is the key. When you compare quickly you are only comparing to what you already know. When you take time with each piece that you try, you are more able to learn how it wants to be used and what it is able to give you in return. The learning is well worth the time invested. Enjoy many years of learning and growth.

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« Reply #328 on: September 21, 2017, 07:15:28 PM »
Yes, and some time later when you've got a real understanding of mouthpiece architecture (which I still don't have after 4 decades of playing!) you can consider altering a 5jb or whatever. But first you must play everything you can get your hands on and figure out what line of thinking is going to work for you. Then find a person who truly understands the art and science of mouthpiece mods, if that's what you think is necessary. You certainly don't want to trust your $500 vintage Kaspar to anyone who's going to destroy it.

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« Reply #329 on: September 21, 2017, 10:05:59 PM »
Yes, and some time later when you've got a real understanding of mouthpiece architecture (which I still don't have after 4 decades of playing!) you can consider altering a 5jb or whatever. But first you must play everything you can get your hands on and figure out what line of thinking is going to work for you. Then find a person who truly understands the art and science of mouthpiece mods, if that's what you think is necessary. You certainly don't want to trust your $500 vintage Kaspar to anyone who's going to destroy it.


Yes. Exploring slowly is the key. When you compare quickly you are only comparing to what you already know. When you take time with each piece that you try, you are more able to learn how it wants to be used and what it is able to give you in return. The learning is well worth the time invested. Enjoy many years of learning and growth.


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