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Last easter I bought this book in Athens from Nakas bookstore, its very good for bigginers with a lots of exercices and 10 greek songs; Gianni to mantili sou, gerakina, lianohortaroudia and others
you can get it from nakas.gr or
http://www.klarina.gr/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5988&language=GR

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post the pagesss.... :grin:

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I will post the excerices as soon as I get some time, the pages you will have to wait until I can scan them...
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cant wait to see them!!

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e, Liakos ... dont be so "viastikos" ... i beleieve Driss ll do as he promissed ... :wink: :beer:

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Sorry guys my brother visited us from Spain this weekend I spend all my free time touring him around, I will try and post the excercices tomorrow or the latest on Tuesday


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dont worry so much, dear DRISS .... our friends here can wait ..  :beer:

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 11:02:38 AM »
No problem Gianni... I know that feeling... We all want to learn this dam (sorry) klarino

 
Elia, here are the files, they are 76 in total the song are from 56 and above...I wont be able to post the pages as I have to scan them first... and because I do not have a scaner myself... You know, you will really make things easy for yourself and buy the book...

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 11:16:13 AM »
You know, you will really make things easy for yourself and buy the book...

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM »
driss eisai theos! these are really good ! thank you!!

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 01:56:48 PM »
i agree, especially if the material is copyrighted!


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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2010, 08:41:58 PM »
I have this book and it's not bad. The CD is useful because it gives you two or more versions of songs. One version is slow or without ornamentation and the other will be with ornamentation. The text documents songs including the key, style, dromos etc so it allows you to understand more than just the notations. The fact that it has notation is good for those of us who still cannot find an old claridzi to teach us the old way. So better to be fiddling with our clarina than our genitalia.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 08:54:20 PM »
I might remind you all that most klaritzides did not necessarily have an "old klartzi" to learn from.  They knew the repertoire from growing up hearing, singing, and dancing to the tunes.  Many were shepherds and played floyera and started playing any song that came into their head or that they were in the mood to try.  Some of those then moved on to klarino.  Many were totally self taught!  Totally!  Many of the established musicians would NOT teach a youngster, because that guy might become good, and take his living away from him.
So, just jump in with your entire heart and soul and play the crap out of that klarino.  That's what many of us did.  If I had waited for a teacher, I'd still be waiting...
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2010, 09:14:50 PM »
I might remind you all that most klaritzides did not necessarily have an "old klartzi" to learn from.  They knew the repertoire from growing up hearing, singing, and dancing to the tunes.  Many were shepherds and played floyera and started playing any song that came into their head or that they were in the mood.  Some of those then moved on to klarino.  Many were totally self taught!  Totally!  Many of the established musicians would NOT teach a youngster, because that guy might become good, and take his living away from him.
So, just jump in with you entire heart and soul and play the crap out of that klarino.  That's what many of us did.  If I had waited for a teacher, I'd still be waiting...
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BINGO my friend, BINGOOOOO .... some of (perhaps THE) best klaritzides of our folk, traditional music were completely self-taught and, they were SUPERB.

Taso Halkias' nephew has told me several stories. Example ---  it was years, YEARS before Taso even knew there was an upper register !!! One day he realized there were "more notes" up there and kept experimenting with is playing.

No one taught Barba Saleas, or Mpatzis' father who was a master klaritzi that very few people know of. For as good as Mpatzi was (and he was great), his father was apparently even better. The same for Kapsalis --- his father was self taught and was superb. The same likely also applies for Filippidis. There must be a little talento/talent -- but it's the drive, the focus, the practice and the heart (soul) that makes the difference ....  :TU:


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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 11:00:11 PM »
Just a quick clarification. I use the term 'old klaridtzi' as a figure of speech. I admire those people who can pick up an instrument and start to learn it. I do not have that ability. I wish I could. Music was foreign to me in many ways until recently. It was not in my blood. I had to learn it somehow. I needed an introduction. Having come this far though, I realise that playing by ear is possible and i can even reproduce some melodies even if in the wrong key. Yes, there is much to admire in these people. Much to admire...

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 11:12:41 PM »
Just a quick clarification. I use the term 'old klaridtzi' as a figure of speech. I admire those people who can pick up an instrument and start to learn it. I do not have that ability. I wish I could. Music was foreign to me in many ways until recently. It was not in my blood. I had to learn it somehow. I needed an introduction. Having come this far though, I realise that playing by ear is possible and i can even reproduce some melodies even if in the wrong key. Yes, there is much to admire in these people. Much to admire...


Good for you!  And keep it up!  PUSH the envelope.... and you will surprise yourself.  I just talked to the physical therapist again during my session (twice a week still on my rotator cuff surgery).  She said you have to push to the point where you can't move any further and it hurts, and then push it just a bit more.  And continue that and repeat it and repeat it, and sure, it hurts, but then you will, almost miraculously, jump to the next plateau.  And with me, every week has brought a little more movement.  From last week to this week, I have a little more movement than I had before.  (And it hurts tonight of course).  But she made me think about it and I told her that it reminded me of how you learn a musical instrument.  You just have to push and push and push, and then you find, like a miracle, that you have progressed.
So, once again, my advice to anyone is to NOT think about what you cannot do, but to just DO it.  You WILL surprise yourself!!!!
We humans are wonderful creatures; we have the ability to do more than we think.  Sometime I'll tell you the story of how Hristos Adamopoulos (GREAT klaritzis) overcame his grievous wounds that he suffered during the war and managed to continue as a musician.
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