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« on: January 31, 2013, 08:07:27 AM »
Hi all!

anyone is familiar with Thomann's G clarinets?

http://www.thomann.de/it/thomann_ggcl_417_g_clarinet.htm

it looks strangely inexpensive for G clarinets...
i've just emailed them to ask where the clarinets are produced.

did anyone of you try these or other thomann clarinets?
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cheeers!
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 08:52:15 AM »
I guess its the store brand!  they probably have a Chinese or india company make them and put the store brand on them.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 03:02:19 PM »
i think like BASS said...

ask them for this

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
nothing like putting your name on crap!! sales should sky rocket!! :)

btw 699 euro.. not that cheap...

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 03:38:01 PM »
I guess its the store brand!  they probably have a Chinese or india company make them and put the store brand on them.

i agree
many stores do the same thing specially the big ones like Thomann

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 06:53:08 AM »
I've just ordering one of these clarinets:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_ggcl_417_synthetic_g_clarinet.htm

I have a thomann antique tenor sax, and is good for the price. If I don't like I have the money back 30 days...
It will be my first G clarinet, also my first oeheler/albert system clarinet.

I will post when it arrives



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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 03:36:04 PM »
I've just ordering one of these clarinets:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_ggcl_417_synthetic_g_clarinet.htm

I have a thomann antique tenor sax, and is good for the price. If I don't like I have the money back 30 days...
It will be my first G clarinet, also my first oeheler/albert system clarinet.

I will post when it arrives




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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 10:53:36 PM »
I have and play a Thomann G clarinet. Plays fine after some tweaking. I use a 5JB on it. Here's an album I used it on.
https://itunes.apple.com/ae/album/washwishni/id1171704260

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 04:07:30 PM »
Nice album! I enjoyed it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 03:17:04 PM »
Wrap, Nice album and I really like the sound! What reeds do you used? recorded in studio with condenser mics?

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 11:11:24 PM »
Wrap, Nice album and I really like the sound! What reeds do you used? recorded in studio with condenser mics?


I think I used Apollo reeds for that album. I now use Vandoren Blue Box. Yes, condenser mic, I think we used an AKG 414 but not sure. I only had the G clarinet for a short time when we recorded that. Since then I have put in some serious practice time which was needed to master the German system. I have only two issues with the Thomann: B2 is way too high and the key work is too soft. The B2 I solved with two small tuning rings. The key work, well I just live with it. Because the horn is plastic I never have to worry about it when traveling and playing it under all kinds of conditions.

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2017, 02:25:30 AM »

I think I used Apollo reeds for that album. I now use Vandoren Blue Box. Yes, condenser mic, I think we used an AKG 414 but not sure. I only had the G clarinet for a short time when we recorded that. Since then I have put in some serious practice time which was needed to master the German system. I have only two issues with the Thomann: B2 is way too high and the key work is too soft. The B2 I solved with two small tuning rings. The key work, well I just live with it. Because the horn is plastic I never have to worry about it when traveling and playing it under all kinds of conditions.


Key rings between barrel and body or inside the key hole ? Perhaps this could be solved with another barrel?




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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 11:16:51 PM »
Small key ring between upper and lower body pieces and between lower piece and bell. Did some experiments and this seems to work best.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2017, 07:52:03 AM »
This is good thinking. People tend to think about adjusting tuning only at the barrel, but the effect of any adjustment is greatest in the area near the adjustment. So if you have a localized tuning issue, adjusting at the nearest joint makes the most sense.  I, too, have tuning rings in several of the joints on my clarinet.

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2017, 06:53:23 AM »
Pretty much like Warp X says. It's not the greatest instrument, but it does the trick after a little tweaking. I would recommend it as a stepping stone before making the leap to Amati or Hammerschmidt.

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2017, 02:10:09 AM »
The clarinet arrives and I'm happy with it.
I found albert/oehler system more easy than bohem for me. I also play oboe and sax and this sistem is like the mix of these instruments  :grin: .
Sometimes I find difficult to play upper C and A of the clarion register, I archieve easy with legato, but find difficult start playing with whose notes. I dont now if it is an embochure problem or mouthpiece or reed... I need to practice more.


At the moment I'm using a rico B7 mp,  1,5 rico reeds are a bit too soft for me but I like its flexibility. I'm thinking about something more opened like vandoren 7jb...


It plays a little sharp but I can fix with emobouchure. I have to try with tunning rings. Thanks for the tip Warp x  ;)
 

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2017, 07:43:24 AM »
Congratulations Lucas. Post a clip when you're ready, I'm curious to know how it sounds.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 08:32:47 AM »
The clarinet arrives and I'm happy with it.

Excellent!

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...Sometimes I find difficult to play upper C and A of the clarion register, I archieve easy with legato, but find difficult start playing with whose notes. I dont now if it is an embochure problem or mouthpiece or reed... I need to practice more.

New with an instrument, first line of defense is practice more. Make changes after getting to know the instrument.

Choice of reed can be a factor - slightly stiffer heart makes for cleaner high notes, but also for less flexibility when bending notes - different brands behave differently, you have to discover what will work best for you.  I also trim the sides of my reeds slightly, so that they are exactly as wide as the mouthpiece rails and no wider. I get better control across registers that way.

Those two notes are sometimes problematic to jump to. There are two fingerings for the A and three good fingerings for the C. I choose which to use according to what note I'm coming from and what note I'll be going to after it.

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2017, 01:56:14 PM »
Congratulations Lucas. Post a clip when you're ready, I'm curious to know how it sounds.


I'll record a clip soon when I have some time ;)

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New with an instrument, first line of defense is practice more. Make changes after getting to know the instrument.

Choice of reed can be a factor - slightly stiffer heart makes for cleaner high notes, but also for less flexibility when bending notes - different brands behave differently, you have to discover what will work best for you.  I also trim the sides of my reeds slightly, so that they are exactly as wide as the mouthpiece rails and no wider. I get better control across registers that way.

Those two notes are sometimes problematic to jump to. There are two fingerings for the A and three good fingerings for the C. I choose which to use according to what note I'm coming from and what note I'll be going to after it.



I'm using now the 5jb, and is a bit easier, but these notes are more dificult in comparison with Bb bohem clarinet
I tend to practice low volume or medium most of the time, it's easy with more volume.
I will try the reed modification


About the technique: I used to press the air with the diaphragm first and then release a small amount with pressure, as I am accustomed to do with the oboe (the oboe requires a lot more air pressure in comparison), this trick gives me more control but I don't now if it the best on clarinet or better blow more freely. I also prefer double lips embouchure, although I hurt a little my upper lip with teeth when playing too long.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 08:51:26 PM »
...I'm using now the 5jb, and is a bit easier, but these notes are more dificult in comparison with Bb bohem clarinet

Shouldn't be. It must be a quirk of your instrument. Have a good tech look at it; sometimes  little modifications can make a big difference. I've certainly made a number of them on my instrument, and it plays much, much better than when I first got it.

Which fingering are you using on the high C? The thumb and second finger is the traditional fingering, but it sometimes doesn't speak as easily as another fingering.

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I tend to practice low volume or medium most of the time, it's easy with more volume.
I will try the reed modification

About the technique: I used to press the air with the diaphragm first and then release a small amount with pressure, as I am accustomed to do with the oboe (the oboe requires a lot more air pressure in comparison), this trick gives me more control but I don't now if it the best on clarinet...

For control at low volume, it's pretty much a requirement. Insufficient air pressure won't adequately start the reed moving.  I don't at all mean to suggest that you should have a setup that requires high pressure, but that you need as much pressure behind the reed to start it at low volume as you do at medium volume; else you won't get a clean start.

 

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