Mehx, you are my guru. I love what you gave to the world with your post.
I have read thoroughly the exchange with Veroniki, who I greatly respect for a long ago and very erudite post about maqams that led to some greater understanding on my part of their construction and purpose in making music. But in this Trumpian climate we must live in, it's so disheartening to see these arguments come up again and again.
The thing that made me cringe here, and prompt a response, is the phrase "Arvanites are light skinned people". Why state that? How in the world does that mean a rat's ass? People are just people. Your infant child knows nothing of this and only learns prejudice from what you teach her. As a naive Canadian saxophonist/clarinetist who plays music with people from every corner of the world, as a guy who lives in a nation of immigrants, as a citizen of a country that accepts all those people whose names are inscribed on the Statue of Liberty that the US no longer accepts, I just don't understand how this hatred and misunderstanding can persist for so long -- thousands of years, indeed from the time of St Paul -- except that you teach it to your children, generation after generation. Twice in recent years I stumped across the old Yugoslavia in every one of the old "states" with a clarinet
and only made friends, not enemies. I played music. I learned much. Never learned the answer to this ancient dilemma that was argued about in this thread and in another heated exchange that Veroniki had some weeks ago (can't remember the thread, don't want to remember).
So I'm with Saleas
: This was a post of music intended to make us brothers/sisters. Why is it that anything about the Balkans has to involve salt in the wounds? When will Serbia give up on the myth of Kosovo Polje? When will Greece give up on the myth of Phillip and Alexander, who weren't even Greek? When will all of you give up to the fact that Makedonia is the crossroads that everyone has owned once but no one has ever actually owned? What is all this real estate worth if you must watch your children die to own it?
All the arguments above about who is really Albanian, who is Greek are interesting to read as a student of the history. But you guys who've lived this history for maybe 600 years maybe should decide if you're gonna live it for the next half century. Or maybe you should just get over the middle ages. It doesn't matter now.
And yeah, I expect to get trashed by somebody for my naive Canadian viewpoint.